Growth & Grace

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This is a Kun V studios original program. The following program is underwritten by Crawford management group, Harris capital Mortgage Group, Tiffany Lloyd consulting and Chris glow, and does not reflect the views or opinions of 91.5 Jasmine Moore, the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, or the Board of Regents of the Nevada System of Higher Education even

Unknown Speaker 0:21
better than I was the last time, baby, we back,

Speaker 1 0:38
we back and we back and we back here, we back and we back and we back. Hey, hey. Hey everybody. You're listening to growth and Grace today. How's everybody today? I'm good. Well, welcome in. We are in the studio with Leah Crawford, Tiffany Lloyd, and we have special

Speaker 2 0:59
guests, Julian, how are you? How are you? Julian, feeling good

Unknown Speaker 1:03
and David Ricketts, so apparently

Speaker 1 1:05
we're talking about fire safety today, and I'm about to get a whole lesson on what that looks like. I'm little scared now

Leaha Crawford 1:13
you should be. You should be because what you're going to find out is So David has been on with us, with on with on with us several times. And I like to bring them on this time of year, just to give everybody a checkup so you can watch, because we got Christmas lights going. You got dinners cooking. You just got a bunch of stuff going on. I try to get them before Thanksgiving, but definitely before Christmas, because of all the lights and stuff. Dave and welcome back. Thank you. Thank you for having me back. I appreciate that. And then also, I just want to introduce everyone to my little cousin. Julian Rosado, hey.

So, I mean, all right, David, first of all, who are you? Who is David Ricketts, so,

Speaker 3 1:55
David Ricketts, I am the owner and operator of LV fires LLC, and we're a fire safety and preparedness company. We do fire safety seminars all throughout Las Vegas. We also provide fire safety protection everything across the board, except for sprinklers in the house so but we also do home fire safety evaluation. So we walk with you from room to room throughout your home, and we'll point out all the different fire safety risks and hazards that we see. And the best thing about it, Tiffany, it's free. I wouldn't want to see you coming.

Unknown Speaker 2:24
You would be looking at my house and be like, That's a fire hazard. That's a

Speaker 3 2:27
fire fix it. Fix it. But you know what? Tiffany, I've been in houses of firemen all throughout town, and I see the same thing in their houses that I'll see in your house if I came to you. So I tell people, don't feel bad about what you what I see in the house. You know what? 10 years ago, I had someone come to miles. They did the same thing before I started with the company. People

Speaker 1 2:46
like free. So how do people contact you? They can go to LV fires.com,

Speaker 3 2:50
phone numbers on there, which is 702-419-4813, if you go to the website, oh, slow down. Okay. Okay. My New York is coming

Leaha Crawford 3:02
up educating right now. So L, v5,

Speaker 3 3:05
fires.com, and what's that number again, 702-419-4813,

Leaha Crawford 3:13
okay, now we're going to go through that again. Now let's start. So you come to my home, what are the different things that you're looking for that what are the different things that you normally see in almost everyone's home?

Speaker 3 3:25
The most common things are electronics. Okay? Most people go to sleep with their cell phones plugged in, absolutely. IPads plugged in. Yes, laptops. Why all of the above? Because it's convenient, right? Yes, we're using it throughout the day. Just charge it at night, right? But let me ask you a question. If your cell phone, iPad or laptop started a fire, would you rather happen when you're asleep or when

Speaker 2 3:47
you're awake? I'll just make sure it's charged before There you go.

Speaker 3 3:51
Charge it when you're awake. Because I did a fire safety class seven or eight years ago with the Verizon and they taught me something that I did not know. Do not charge those devices when you go to bed. So

Unknown Speaker 4:02
does it matter what you're charging it on?

Speaker 3 4:06
So a few things, if you do charge it, whether during the day or night, do not charge it on your bed, couch, anything soft. Don't have it on the carpet, because it's easier for it to overheat.

Leaha Crawford 4:17
So you want it on a hard surface, absolutely.

Speaker 1 4:20
So a little bit further, what about like a surge protector? Does that matter? So

Speaker 3 4:24
it depends on the quality of the surge protector. So I'm glad you brought that up during this holiday season, or during the holiday seasons, I see a lot of extension cords being used. There's a difference between an extension cord and a surge protector. Okay, the brown, white and green extension cords are for temporary use

Leaha Crawford 4:42
only, so they're not supposed to be used all day, every day, correct?

Speaker 3 4:45
So I see them all the time behind the TV, right? Okay, but if you read the tag on it, it says it's not for that use. So what

Speaker 1 4:54
is for that use? There's got to be a gotta use a search. So you use the search. But. Yeah, even for the that's the strip thing,

Leaha Crawford 5:02
right? I just want to make sure we know what the surge protector is, and you're talking about quality

Speaker 1 5:06
of it. So how do you know, if you've, you've purchased a quality surge protector, envy

Speaker 3 5:12
energy, I believe they give them away right now, because I've been in a lot of houses recently with a lot of seniors. So they a lot of times they have free programs. We can contact or envy energy, and you can get one for free,

Leaha Crawford 5:24
but you need more than one, yeah, but they're giving, they're like, here's a starter kit. Okay, so you

Speaker 3 5:30
want to make sure that they are UL certified or ETL certified, okay,

Leaha Crawford 5:35
U, L or E, T, L, certified, yep. And

Speaker 1 5:41
okay, so walk me through. You come to my house, that's the

Leaha Crawford 5:47
first thing you saw. Was the cell phone being charged. Well,

Speaker 1 5:50
he saw that on the bed, right? And you're like, get that off that soft surface, correct? What else you looking for

Speaker 3 5:58
in the kitchen? Some of the main things we see in the kitchen, coffee pots that are plugged in after we're done using them. Tote that's the eyes. Toasters,

Speaker 1 6:05
I always unplug my toaster instantly. Wrap it up. Always plugged in,

Speaker 3 6:13
always plugged in. And these are things that you can go to YouTube and just type in, air fryer fires, you'll see it nine times out of 10. How about the microwave? Because we need a microwave plugged in. So there's certain things, obviously, the oven, stove, microwave,

Leaha Crawford 6:27
refrigerator, okay, I'm just saying okay, because I'm like, Can

Speaker 3 6:30
those malfunction? Though? Yeah, refrigerators can still start fires.

Speaker 1 6:35
Ovens can as well, yeah, like that little clicking thing that happens sometimes that scared me. I unplug it. I'm like, what is that? And Why is my oven clicking? And it's not even

Speaker 3 6:43
on. You have gas, right? Okay, are you talking about when you turn the burners? Yeah, okay. Now that's No,

Speaker 1 6:48
no, no, no. When I'm not even using it, it happened twice. It's not I'm not turning it on, and it just starts clicking. And my house haunted. How old? How old is your unit? Roughly, my unit is probably about 10 years old. I

Speaker 3 7:03
would call someone to come to come and take a look at it. Okay, absolutely, yeah, okay, so, so I'm glad you brought that up, because I go into houses where people say that outlet over there hasn't worked in five years and they've never had an electrician come out and take a look at it. Okay, where that switch has never worked or it gets warm, stop using it. Call an electrician or somebody from home, whatever, call someone to come take a look at it, because you may have an issue brewing behind the walls.

Leaha Crawford 7:27
So you need to make sure. So the idea is like, so if you're not using because you're I'm thinking your light switch should not be warm, correct? You know, even, even if you turned it on, it should not be warm.

Speaker 3 7:36
I had this happen in my house two months ago. Okay, I'm in my office upstairs, working, probably eight o'clock at night. I smell something burning. I think my wife maybe blew out a candle or something. She said, No, I'm not doing anything. So my training, I put my hand on the top part of the switch, bottom part left and right up top. It was warm. I shut off that ceiling fan that was on, went down to the fuse box, shut off the power, unscrewed it, there was a burn mark on the inside of the switch. So imagine if I just left that ceiling fan on and went to the store that could have started fire, absolutely just electrical malfunction. That's it. Something that wouldn't have been my fault directly. So we can all have a fire based on either an accident that you did. It could have been the builder. It could have been just a faulty product. There's so many different reasons why we can all have a fire. So

Speaker 1 8:26
before we went on air, you said, No, washer, dryer, can we visit that for a second?

Speaker 3 8:31
Yes. So every year in the United States, we have roughly 16,000 dryer fires. Most people are pretty good about cleaning out the lint trap before or after every use, right? But how many times have you had someone come out and actually take apart the dryer and clean out all the dust on the inside of the drum, or pull the dryer out and clean out the vent? Have you ever had someone come do that? I

Leaha Crawford 8:52
actually started doing that after you told me I started. I was like, oh my, oh,

Speaker 3 8:58
yeah. A lot of stuff is in there, right? So that should be done about every one to two years, depending on how often you're doing washing in the house. But one website that you can go to the lookup recalls in your house is WWW dot c, as in Charlie, P as in Papa, S as in Sam, C, as in charlie.gov, that's the Consumer Product Safety Commission. They're the ones who put out recalls. Okay, so I think it was LG or Samsung that had a recall on their front loading washers and dryers years ago that were starting fires. So think about it. You put a load of clothes on the wash machine and you go to bed, put something in the dryer, go to bed or leave the house. That could be what starts your fire. So once again, when we go to bed, there's certain things we don't want to do, don't we're during the holiday season right now, don't start your crock pot and go to bed or leave the house, especially if you have pets at home. Pets are done. They're not going to survive that fire. So there's a lot of different things that we could do to reduce the chances of us. Having a fire. But more importantly, we need to know what to do if there's a fire. How many fire extinguishers do we have in the house? Are smoke alarms up to date? What kind of smoke alarms do we have in the house? Do we have a carbon monoxide alarm in the house? Do we have an escape plan? Are there kids pets involved? Where do the kids hide when they get scared? And I say that because when I had my fire at four years old, I hid in the closet. Oh, okay, I got scared and hit my sister. She hid underneath her covers. Statistically, kids are gonna hide. They're not gonna exit unless you've actually practiced those things with them. I have

Speaker 2 10:32
a question. So a lot of new builds going under construction now. So let's say I'm a new, first time homeowner. And would you offer anything for a first time homeowner

Unknown Speaker 10:45
in terms of just advice or, like,

Speaker 2 10:47
if, if I called it an Expector, would you also have a second opinion?

Speaker 3 10:53
So I'm glad you said. That's really good question. So I find that a lot of times, whether if you're a first time homeowner or this is your fifth house. Sometimes people aren't in the house when the inspector comes by. But the question I always ask when it comes to your inspector, did that inspector go into the attic and look around, right? I see a lot of times they say, No, he didn't. I'm not going to tell you conversations I've had with inspectors in terms of what they do if the person's not there when they come by and do the inspection, but you need you should be in the house when they inspect the home, and most homes, you know you have a warranty as well, so you thoroughly want to go through, check the outlets, make sure everything's good to go before that warranty expires, so that this way, if there is an issue with the wiring in the walls or the ceiling or attic, it can get replaced. On a warranty,

Unknown Speaker 11:40
your warranty is for a year. Yep, yeah. So a lot of new

Speaker 3 11:43
builds now, or all new builds now, as of this March, have to have sprinklers. Now, I'm not knocking sprinklers, but let's be realistic, you have that sprinkler head inside of your kitchen. That sprinkler head burst just because, not, not just that, but let's say you have a grease fire on your stove, and that sprinkler goes off right enough

Speaker 1 12:03
set and, and, and it just destroys everything, everything. Don't get me

Speaker 3 12:07
wrong. I'd rather have that than possible death. I get it. Don't get me wrong. But in terms of where sprinklers are not located, this is another issue. When it comes to code. There's no sprinklers inside of your attic. So if your HVAC starts to fire, your attic, sprinklers won't do anything. A lot of times there's no sprinklers in the garage as well. So there's different areas in the house where sprinklers don't even cover. So

Leaha Crawford 12:31
basically, you need to this. This is your checkup, and you need to go through and check your house and just be aware of what's going on in your home, in your apartment, wherever you live. Yes, so that you can just little things. Yes, do not charge your cell phone on the bed or a soft surface, correct. Charge it on a hard surface always.

Speaker 3 12:48
And make sure there's nothing flammable that's around it in case it does. So if you do have it in your nightstand, make sure it's not right underneath the lamp. There's not a box of tissues right next door to paper I go into when I go into kids bedrooms, 910, out of 10. Yep, school work, paperwork all over the nightstand. That's going to be the fuel for the fire.

Speaker 1 13:07
So how often would you say we should have our H fat inspected because it gets so hot here?

Speaker 3 13:14
Once a year, once every year. Okay? ACS unit as well. Okay,

Leaha Crawford 13:18
well, that's HVAC, so it's a whole, yes, it's heating, ventilation, air conditioning,

Speaker 1 13:24
all of it done. Yeah, okay, okay, so let's talk Christmas. Everybody has their Christmas lights up right now, right? How can we be safe? How can we be safe? So

Speaker 3 13:34
a few things. So once again, we already spoke about the extension cords and surge protectors. So in terms of surge protectors, even if you're using that for your Christmas lights, that's fine. Lights, that's fine. That's temporary. That's temporary. Have your surge protector mounted on the wall. This way, you're not going to have as much dust get inside of the open ports, just less risk of different basically,

Leaha Crawford 13:52
if you have open ports, it's good to put the things in it to close up the

Speaker 3 13:55
ports. And some of the surge protectors have sliders on them, so you can close the ports. If you're not using it, use the dust. But with Christmas trees, if you have a real Christmas tree, this is very important. Most of the lots that you go get your Christmas tree from, either they'll do it for you automatically, or you may have to request it, ask them to cut off the bottom of it before they load it on your car or in your truck, because on the bottom of it, it's going to be completely sapped over, right? So in other words, it won't absorb any water inside of that bowl. Once you get home and it's going to

Speaker 1 14:26
die, they've always cut the bottom, so they cut in corners. If they don't, then, okay? Or

Speaker 3 14:31
when you get home, just take a drill, drill a couple holes in the bottom up, so this way it can absorb the water through the SAP, because,

Leaha Crawford 14:37
because the tree will dry out exactly you don't want, you don't want the dry tree in the house, Nope,

Speaker 1 14:41
not at all. So I have my lights up on my tree, and I'm decorated, and everything is everything, and then I want to leave the house, unplug the tree. Unplug that tree.

Speaker 3 14:50
This isn't a Christmas story with the light sitting. Unplug it. Okay. But also check your light lights. Make sure that. And those shorts, every bulb is working if not replace those bulbs. Yeah, we have to take those precautions. If you have decorations on the outside of the house, same thing. Make sure that you're using weather appropriate extension cords, which are usually going to be the orange ones, the orange round cords for outdoor use,

Speaker 1 15:18
listening to growth and growth and grace with Leah Crawford, Tiffany Lloyd and Julian, and we are here with David Rickett, and he is teaching us fire safety, mainly me, because apparently you've been heard before, sir, yes, well, no,

Leaha Crawford 15:36
and I think it's important, because sometimes you just need that checkup. Because we even talk about when you're cooking, and you know how, after you cook, you leave the grease on the stove. I mean, you put the grease and you leave the grease there. Oh yeah, he got on me, bad.

Speaker 1 15:47
So you don't leave, you let it, you let it cool off, and then you instantly put it away. You don't leave it on the stove. Correct, okay, okay, so clean up after yourself. Correct,

Leaha Crawford 15:58
okay, but even, but you know how sometimes you you keep the grease, like bacon grease, and put it in some Canton, and they leave it on the stove. Yeah, don't do

Speaker 3 16:08
that. Don't do you should never have cooking oil or grease near the stove, right or above it, inside of a pantry, right? Always keep it away, put in the pantry closet, like I guess another

Speaker 2 16:17
thing I had was, how do I make sure that my stove is actually off, because I always panning about that I don't have gas going off. I will come downstairs metal night and make sure it's like, is this stove actually on? Because this actually should be like, a warning sign. Well, that's

Speaker 3 16:34
me. I'm big. I'm big on checking so before I leave the house, before I go upstairs and go to bed, I check the burners. Make sure everything is unplugged so we're not all waking up

Unknown Speaker 16:43
dead. Yeah, me too.

Leaha Crawford 16:47
I am always more than turning it off. We just want to make sure that it's all correct. Want to make sure that you're not feeling any heat or anything coming from the stove before you go to bed.

Speaker 1 16:55
And if you have the gas, you're going to hear that, so you'll know. But I think I'm paranoid too. Yeah, in regards to that, there

Speaker 2 17:04
somebody should lease event, like a warning sign, or at least, like a text message to your phone, like, Hey, your gas is on.

Unknown Speaker 17:12
I mean, they got everything else. Why not? Well, I

Speaker 3 17:14
will say this, one of the products that our company does have is called a heat alarm. Okay? And what it does, we keep it in your kitchen. It's above your stove. And what it does, it reads the room temperature, okay, so you can look on it has an app on your phone, so you can compare the room temperature in the kitchen versus, and this way you could tell, I think I left the stove on. Let me go

Unknown Speaker 17:34
back. That's really cool. Yeah,

Speaker 1 17:36
let's go back to that coffee maker. I could use my surge protector, though, right? And keep it plugged in. Yeah, mine is actually plugged into a surge protected thanks to my son. He's, he's the techie. Okay, so, but I never even thought about, yeah, I've never thought for everything, everything he uses a surge protector for, wow, yeah, he's Mr. Tech. So I feel really good. I feel really good about our conversation, because if it be, if it was me, my whole house would be on fire, but listening to you, my son shout out to Matt, thank you, Matthew. He keeps his mama safe. Wow. Okay, okay, so what else can you?

Speaker 3 18:12
So let me give you another personal example. Two, three weeks ago, me and my wife were watching TV 10 o'clock at night. I actually I just fell asleep, but all of a sudden I woke up. I heard a just a sound, and all the power in the bedroom was out. What's going on? So I go downstairs, check the fuse box. The fuse switch flipped, so I turn it back on. Go back upstairs. What it was the TV, the flat screen died out. So think about this. Why do, why do our fuses flip off? Is to prevent a fire, right? Yeah. So just from that power surge that that TV gave could have started a fire, but the fuse did what it's supposed to do. It went out before that. So how

Leaha Crawford 18:51
often do you have your fuse boxes checked? Great question. Should you have your fuse I

Speaker 3 18:55
have never had mine checked, other than when we first moved in and we've been in the house for 11 years. So if I wanted to get obviously, if you're getting certain things done to the house, you're doing remodeling wiring, you're getting all that stuff done. Or if you're having a charger, Tesla charger put in your garage, all that stuff should be checked. And speaking of Teslas, let's go jump on that. Let's talk about electric cars, EVs. So I see a lot of that, seeing an increase on EV cars, yeah, and

Leaha Crawford 19:23
people charge their car and go all the

Speaker 1 19:24
time and they're going to go to sleep, yeah? And that's a no no. Do you know how long it takes to charge those cars? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 19:32
it takes. No,

Speaker 1 19:33
it takes. I, I'm reading one for my kids, and they were just going to Reno it literally took them, depending on the charging station. It took them nine hours to charge that kind of charge, yes, and it was crazy. It took double the time for them to get now, it takes seven hours one way, one way to get back. So it's 14 hour drive. On its own. It took them almost two days because of the charging of that EV, I was like, I thought we were doing something here. No, no, no, no, no. Can you imagine, like that, that backup that we had on, it wasn't the 15, it was on something, but it was California Highway. It was just a couple months ago, the batteries, yeah, with all the batteries dying, and people would stuck on the freeway, and they were stuck there for hours, that's

Speaker 2 20:27
why I think those hybrids are the best. I used to have a BMW IX or xi, and yeah, the battery would die, but it's also mixed with gas, right? So yeah,

Unknown Speaker 20:38
I think hybrid would be the way to go.

Leaha Crawford 20:43
I'm gonna keep my gas. Oh, here we go. All right,

Speaker 3 20:47
so when it comes to fire hazard, anything that's an EV and electric, the experts would tell you, hybrids are the most dangerous. I'm just giving the information. I

Speaker 2 20:58
actually got to an accident with that car. I got a really terrible accident with that car. And so the nurses told me I was in terrible and so nurses told me, she said the BMW is the most, safest car to get into an accident with. Okay, yeah, so it was total. Car was total.

Unknown Speaker 21:17
Mercedes would be the

Unknown Speaker 21:18
safest BMW is a more of a tank.

Speaker 2 21:21
She told me. She said BMW. She said she sees a lot of accidents. She said that BMW is the most safest car to get today. Yeah, oh, no, I was speeding. No,

Leaha Crawford 21:31
you drive slowly. I drive slow. Do you I do? I do drive. This is

Speaker 2 21:35
all definitely my fault. It was almost fakes Boulevard too.

Unknown Speaker 21:40
Well, I'm glad you're

Leaha Crawford 21:41
okay, but electric cars though, so nine hours to charge. It

Speaker 1 21:45
was not. It takes nine hours. So how was it empty? Yeah, no, no, it wasn't. Oh no. So this is what I'm wondering. Like you're saying that it's not safe to charge them overnight. It's

Speaker 3 21:57
not recommended to, not recommended to, yeah, once again, if the fire starts, would I rather have it? Have it happen when I'm sleeping or awake, all

Speaker 1 22:05
I hear is that we need to be more responsible with our time so that we can strategically stay alive.

Leaha Crawford 22:11
Well, the other thing too is because when you're charging a phone and you want to be awake, so then I guess, do you charge your phone when you get in the shower? Do you charge your phone while you're getting dressed? Do different things like that. Instead of charging it while you sleep,

Speaker 1 22:22
I just give people this idea while I'm sleep, because I'm listening to binarro beats, and I keep it on the charger so that, you know, it's playing in the background. I could die, huh?

Speaker 3 22:35
So So me, I have, wow. I have two cell phone chargers at home. I have my car charger. So as soon as I get up in the morning, take myself into my office, plug it up. It's charging, make breakfast, do whatever I'm doing, but as soon as I'm getting ready to leave, I take it off the charger, put in the car charger as well. So for me personally, my cell phone is usually 80% or above because it's constantly on the charger while I'm awake. So even if I'm using it making calls, I have it on my charger. My son

Speaker 1 23:01
just said I constantly charge by charge. He says, That's because you're old, and I was

Leaha Crawford 23:08
no because I've had times when I didn't do that when I'm not in the car, like trying to find the right car charger so that it is charging while I'm in the car, because I'm using the phone all day long, all the time and keep it in charge. Or, you know, even with my Bluetooth or my watch, yeah,

Speaker 1 23:24
I have this doc thing that my son, yeah, in my car. So you just put it on there when you get in the car, and it charges it very quickly. It's actually really cool. But got it,

Speaker 2 23:33
wow. So you're so you're saying that the hybrid is the most dangerous, because my dream car is the new Porsche 911 Oh yeah, yeah, that's my Nick came up with that. I really want that. That's my dream car.

Speaker 3 23:48
Yeah, yeah. So I wanted to get a Tesla myself about a year, actually, two years ago, but once I started seeing all the reports about Tesla deaths and not, I'm not picking on Tesla any. EVs, I changed my mind. There was just a family of four that died. It was earlier this week from a Tesla. It just while they were driving, exploded, exploded,

Unknown Speaker 24:10
right? So that's,

Leaha Crawford 24:13
well, I guess I look at it. I mean, well, what is I mean, I guess, just trying to be safe. So guys in your home, what I would do, first of all is number one, when you're washing and drying clothes, do it while you're awake. So wash and dry while you're awake. Your appliances, if you don't have a surge protector, unplug your appliances and put your appliances up, just little things to keep you safe. Instead of charging your phone, don't charge your phone and put it on a soft surface. Always charge on a hard surface. And these are just little

Speaker 1 24:42
tips, just to keep you safe. If you are unsure of whether or not your home is safe, he can be located at what's your website again.

Speaker 3 24:51
LV, like Las Vegas fires with an s.com One more time. LV, fires.com and you know. Burger again, 702-419-4813,

Speaker 2 25:06
and I think you'd be really good for as a second opinion for all the first time homebuyers after they hired. And I think you'd be really, really good to call, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 25:15
that's a great idea. Yeah, a

Speaker 3 25:17
lot of first time homeowners don't know the maintenance that's really involved in the home, things that need to be done, right? A

Leaha Crawford 25:24
website that they could go to, like, I mean, because that is, because that's huge. When you talk about, we just had the conversation about maintaining the home, and people believe like, Oh, I got the home. That's it. No, oh, absolutely, yeah, no. That's where the journey begins, yeah. Because that was the hard part, just getting in, yeah, and but now you get in and with a new home, it's well, with the new home, the good thing is, everything is new, right? So then you just have to find out, how long does the HVAC unit last? What are the things I need to do for that? How long is my washer and dryer, my refrigerator? What's the life expectancy on all these things? Because you need to plan to replace them, because you got to replace them. There's

Speaker 1 25:59
a lot to be said about what needs to go into becoming a first time home buyer, because if you think about it, if you've rented your entire life, you have no idea. You have no idea what it costs or what it takes to maintain a home, because you've never had to do it before. Your landlord is always taken care of. So made a call. You just call somebody, you know, well, you still call on somebody, but you still have to be aware of what you call, what you call exactly you just look you guys, this has been an amazing talk, and we're going into the holiday season. If you all celebrate, have a beautiful holiday. Happy Kwanzaa. Have Merry Christmas. Um, what else we miss? And Rosh Hashanah, everything, all of everything, everything, guys, yes,

Leaha Crawford 26:40
have a blessed and safe holiday season. Alright, you're listening to Leah Crawford and Tiffany Lloyd, and we are the host of growth and grace, and we will see you. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you guys.

Unknown Speaker 26:55
Have a beautiful weekend. Everyone. Bye, bye.

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