Growth & Grace

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Leaha Crawford 0:44
Hey, good morning, happy Saturday. Lost Vegas. It's football season, y'all, it's football season.

Julian Rosado 0:55
College football team. Okay, well, you said football

Leaha Crawford 0:58
football, it's football. It's high school football is the little puff lead.

Julian Rosado 1:04
Type of question I have about high school football here in Nevada, is extremely hot here, so how did they do that here?

Leaha Crawford 1:12
Every week, every week, hydrate. They hot. Yeah, hydrated. I mean, are

Julian Rosado 1:18
you supposed to practice? Was like 120 degrees outside at night.

Leaha Crawford 1:23
No, they just get creative, because it's still football, and the team know that, and the teams are really playing. I mean, every Friday night, because my son just went to high school, there's a football game, and they have to practice, yeah, and I think that because they got to remember, you know, so the school district has been here for a while. They've had the they got it down to a science, and they probably had the kids come at night when it cools off, or early in the morning, oh yeah, early in the morning, it's actually beautiful, early in the morning. Or Guess what? You put your helmet on and get out there in the 105, and you just drink a lot of water, all right.

Julian Rosado 1:58
Number 97 had a stroke. Let's keep going. What's your massage?

Leaha Crawford 2:07
You want to know what? But I, Julian, I love you. That's way I do. I love you. I love you. All right, so today y'all, we are talking about fire safety. So we have David Ricketts in the studio with us, and he has Las Vegas fires. And we're going to talk about some things, about some fire prevention, because there's been some, you know, interesting development developments, as we are buying electric cars, everybody has a cell phone, you know. And we're going to get into some lithium ion battery safety. So, David, hello,

David Ricketts 2:40
hello. Thank you guys so much for having me on

Leaha Crawford 2:42
today. You know, it's always amazing every time you come on, every time you come on, I go home and like, you wanna know what you gotta do all this again, girl, because you, you got all the stuff plugged up, you go to sleep with it on on the dresser. And he said, Don't do that. Yes. All right. So let's talk about it. What is okay? Lithium ion battery, safety. What is that? All right,

David Ricketts 3:00
so lithium ion batteries. So there's different types of lithium batteries. You have lithium ion, there's lithium manganese, and there's one or two others. Lithium ions are the least expensive, but they're the most volatile. So anything that we have in our house, such as our cell phone, iPads, laptops, tablets, electric vehicles, hybrid vehicles. They have lithium ion batteries in them, and the scary thing is about them is that you'll see fire marshals all throughout the country. They used to have fire departments use giant fire blankets to put out EV fires when they would happen. But we've had firemen get injured in those situations, because what happens when one of the cells is extinguished? It's something that's called thermal runaway, as to where the next cell ignites and it blows up. So we've had firemen get injured. So now it's basically, the theme is just let it burn, basically, and they will pour 1000s of gas, 10s of 1000s of gallons of water, on these electric vehicle fires, and they just reignite over and over again. And I believe it was either France or maybe Switzer. I think it was France where they the only solution they came to was to take the entire vehicle and dump it into a pool. That was the only way to keep it out. My god, that was it. So imagine if you have one of these in your

Leaha Crawford 4:16
garage. So how you gonna get the How you gonna get the thing to the pool? They would

David Ricketts 4:20
put it on a flatbed truck while it's burning or partially extinguished and just dump it in. That's all they would do.

Leaha Crawford 4:27
But you got to get it on the flatbed truck to get it to the pool. Yep.

David Ricketts 4:31
So in between, while it's while one of the cells is extinguished before the next one ignites, they would put it up on a flatbed, get it on that highway, get it to that pool, dump it in. So if it does Ignite, it's underwater. It's not damaging

Leaha Crawford 4:43
anything, but the car is damaged because it's underwater. The car is done. It's done,

David Ricketts 4:47
it's done. So what

Leaha Crawford 4:49
is actually causing these batteries to ignite

David Ricketts 4:54
so many different things, so it could be a damaged cell. So for instance, how many times have we dropped our cell? Phones before, even if you haven't, in the case, you could be causing some damage within that battery.

Julian Rosado 5:06
Yeah, so especially insurance knows me personally

David Ricketts 5:10
and but that's why hold your phone. No, but that's why you should have a good case on your phone. Those thin, thin plastic ones, for the most part, they're really not going to do anything. A good outer box or something is going to give it more stability in case you do drop

Leaha Crawford 5:26
it. I don't even have a case, but I keep mine. I'm not gonna lie, mine stays in my purse.

David Ricketts 5:32
See, I'm like Julian. I'll drop mine. Yeah, all the time, so I have to have it covered.

Leaha Crawford 5:38
But have you ever seen Julian's phone? No, okay. So you ever see those paintings like the glass is just broken,

David Ricketts 5:48
like shattered glass? I can't do that. No, I have to. I got two glass protectors on mine. I can't, I

Leaha Crawford 5:53
can't walk around with the and I feel bad. I have no protection on mine.

David Ricketts 5:58
See, I can't do that. It'd be broken, right? Same day. Yeah. So anytime that they have any kind of damage, moisture exposure, you can have swelling of the battery, just so many different issues. So they have to you have to be so careful with these batteries. Think about our children. How many times do we have children that go to bed with their cell phones and get their pillows because they're trying to hide it from mom and dad, or they just want to hear that text from their boyfriend or girlfriend late at night? So late at night, so they wake up and respond, but we're causing that extra heat within that cell phone or even iPad, lap, whatever they

Leaha Crawford 6:29
have. So I've learned not to have those items on your bed, because they need to breathe correct. So they need to be up on something

David Ricketts 6:37
correct. So whenever you're charging these devices, never have them on your bed, your couch, carpet. Always charge them on something, yeah, a hard surface, because if it does start a fire, won't burn into the bed or the pillow. It can't burn into a hard desktop or anything like that. So, but here's the biggest thing, the NFPA just put out a statement saying that, what is that the NFPA is the National Fire Protection Association. National Fire Protection Association, okay, so they put out safety alerts. They regulate fire codes all throughout the US, but they just put out a statement saying that we should never overcharge our cell phones, iPads and laptops. So think about that. You go to bed and we probably within an hour, it's at 100% so those next few or five hours that we're sleeping, it's overcharged, and that can cause issues with the battery as well. So never charge your cell phone or tablets when

Julian Rosado 7:30
you go to bed. The hard part is, if you don't charge it when you go to bed, you wake up in the morning, it's dead. You try to charge it up before you go it's just like, yeah, it's a whole

Julian Rosado 7:39
and then I'm blamed by Leah for showing up late because your phone wasn't charged.

David Ricketts 7:43
So my personal habit is charge it maybe for an hour before I go to bed. So even if I'm on it or on my laptop, that's a better example. If I'm on the couch using my laptop, I'll have it charging while I'm using it at home, same thing with my cell phone, okay, but when it's time for bed, I don't unplug everything. I unplug everything. Don't leave those blocks plugged in either. That's a big thing as well, a big issue that we'll see. I've heard both from Apple and Verizon. We should never overcharge these devices, but don't leave those blocks plugged in. 24/7, like most of us do. That's how we know where they

Julian Rosado 8:15
know. So our company every cheaper lithium, though, yeah. Oh, yeah,

David Ricketts 8:20
okay, yeah. That's the only way. I mean, if we would really pay, if you look at a lithium manganese battery, they are more expensive, a lot more expensive. There's not many devices. Our alarms use lithium manganese. That's why, that's one of the reasons why the cost is what it is. It's a better battery. My alarms that we are the alarm, okay, the alarms, okay. So lithium ions, they're just way more volatile, way more volatile.

Leaha Crawford 8:43
Yeah, all right, so let's, let's back up, because you said so much stuff, and I had to stop because I looked around my house, Yep, I got the blocks charged in. I got the blocks plugged in. All around the house. Need to go home and basically just unplug everything, is what you're saying, everything but the but the stove, yeah?

David Ricketts 8:58
Stove, oven, refrigerator. But think about this. Think about just go back 30 years. Think about how many electronic devices we had back then compared to now, we had none. We're so much more at risk for home fires today than we were back then, especially so what about the TVs and stuff? Leave them plugged in or unplugged. I leave them plugged in now if I go out of town, that's the only time I may unplug a TV. That's it. Same thing with my desktop. If I'm going out of town, I unplug it. That's it. So what have you had the strip? And you can turn it off. You could turn those off, but you want to make sure that it has a surge or GFCI in it. So this way, if there is a power surge that goes through it, it automatically shuts itself off. But even me, I have my what my monitor, I if I'm charging myself when I have those things on a power strip, I'll turn that off every night. But if I'm going out of time, I still unplug the power

Leaha Crawford 9:49
strip. So basically I just need to go home, unplug everything. And when you use it, plug it up. When you don't use this, unplug

David Ricketts 9:55
it countertop appliances. That's another big thing as well. So it could be your Keurig, your. Or anything that has a heating element. So microwave, coffee pots, Michael, I don't use a microwave, so it's been years since I've had one, probably 10 years. Well, I can't say the same. Yeah. So coffee pots, cappuccino or espresso makers, unpluggos, everything, everything.

Julian Rosado 10:18
Air fryers, those are the big things when people, when they charge their EVs overnight.

David Ricketts 10:22
So watch this. So mountains edge, they contacted me back in June. They said they had, I believe it was in January, maybe, three EV charger fires in the garages. Oh, my goodness. So my question was, were these all installed by the same company or the same person? They said no, they were all installed by different companies. So that's think about that. Now, if it had been one person that installed all three of those, and they all malfunctioned or had a fire, okay, something that he probably did, but the fact that they were all different companies that installed them, that's that raises, you know, red flags.

Leaha Crawford 10:56
So basically, okay, so, because I talked about that, possibly getting, because if you get an electric vehicle, you own a home, it just makes sense for you to have the outlet in the house. Yeah, charged Well, yeah, and you, but you need to, I guess, know who is installing you want to now as a licensed electrician,

David Ricketts 11:15
absolutely, that's something I would never install myself. That's not it.

Leaha Crawford 11:22
Promise you, you will not

David Ricketts 11:25
know but, but think about this. So even even though that these things are installed by the companies, whether Tesla or whoever, they can still malfunction. But now watch this, when you go home, go into your garage, there is no smoke detector in your garage and it's hot. Yeah? So if there's a fire from your EV the charger, your laundry, if it's in the garage, your second fridge, it's in the garage, you won't know it until that fire burns into the house. So think about that. So once again, we're using more electricity today than ever before, so we're more at risk today than we were 30 years ago.

Julian Rosado 12:01
So do you hear anything where an EV just starts getting on fire?

David Ricketts 12:05
It's so random. It's so random. Every day I get alerts from Google. I have Google Alerts. I get alerts I had to shut down the one on home fires. I just get alerts for home fire deaths. Every day. You'll see between seven and 10 emails that I get from Google Alerts every day, and when you I don't even read most of them, because a lot of them involve children, and it's just it's devastating. It really is.

Julian Rosado 12:26
So what does it mean? Cause?

David Ricketts 12:30
So it really varies. So still today, roughly anywhere from 35 to about 40% of home fires originate in the kitchen. It could be from cooking. It could be from an appliance that malfunctioned, things of that nature, but we're more likely to have a home fire and a home fire death from something that is in our bedroom, usually something electronic. Think about how many beds are pressed up against outlets. We have our cell phones plugged in behind the bed, and it may be squishing.

Leaha Crawford 12:56
So then it's better to have your bed a little bit away from the wall. Have all, like, dressers and stuff a little bit away from the wall, if possible. So they're not back because you, I mean, you want a compartment, and then be careful, pull unplug everything, and then plug it.

David Ricketts 13:13
Okay, yeah. So these are gas stoves. Gas stoves is one. And so here's a big thing, make sure you have a good quality carbon monoxide alarm in the house. The most recent death that I can think of locally, where we had the family that died from carbon monoxide was the Adem family that was back in October, where he his brother and I believe, two children died in a house fire. It was a three story house. I actually just drove by it last month. It's they completely tore the whole thing down. It's down to the concrete. It was a devastating situation, very devastating. You can't smell that either, right? No, you can't smell carbon monoxide. You can't see it. You can't taste it. When you get carbon monoxide poisoning, it's all you get. Are flu like symptoms. So think about this, if you wake up, you feel a little sick. I'm dizzy. I might take some medication before I go to work. You get out of the house for 30 minutes you feel better. For all you knew, if you didn't have a carbon monoxide detector in the house, you may have had a little bit of carbon monoxide poisoning and not even noted long term damage and cause neurological problems. There's a lot of issues that it can cause if you have repeated exposure. What causes carbon monoxide? It's unburned fuel, so it could be from some of the appliances in the house. Obviously, your gas stove. So every time you cook with the gas stove, turn on your air vent above, okay, because it's still coming out into the house, your gas dryer, your water heater. Those are the main appliances, furnace as well, possibly. But those are the main things. But so you want

Leaha Crawford 14:42
to make sure that you're always ventilating and so if Okay, so the garage door being open, airing out. So when, back in the day, when they say we got to air the house out, we got to open up the windows and let it let the air flow. When, god, okay,

Julian Rosado 14:56
yeah. But the problem is a lot of new build houses, they don't. Then out

David Ricketts 15:00
exactly so we're tightly sealed. Yeah, so what? So that ties in with asphyxiation. That is why asphyxiation is now the leading cause of death at home. Fires. It's not smoke inhalation anymore, because the homes are more sealed up so they don't leak as much and ventilate as much. So if you go to bed with your bedroom door open, and let's say the fire starts out in the kitchen or in the living room. That fire, it's easier for it to pull all the air out of your bedroom and out of every open room, and you could just suffocate.

Leaha Crawford 15:29
So basically, it's good to have the

David Ricketts 15:31
windows open. No. Well at night, well,

Leaha Crawford 15:35
I'm just Well, I'm just trying to understand so I can go home and rethink this again. Because, you know, I had this evaluation every year looking at like, say, if you have because a lot of times here we don't have screen doors, so people aren't opening up their doors. Yeah, not as much, not as much, right? Unless they have back patios or something like that. So they're opening up the back patio. What you're saying is it's good to have the air ventilating the house, not even

David Ricketts 16:03
just that, not even just with in terms of fire, when you buy new furniture, it fumigates for a while. You get new floor and put in the glues adhesive, they fumigate for a while. So it's good to air out your

Julian Rosado 16:12
house, especially after the paint. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I had my house paint. They want us to move right in right away, I was like, I can't sleep here.

David Ricketts 16:23
No, no. Anytime you paint a room in the house, you should let that at least that room ventilate for at least 24 to 48 hours, if possible.

Leaha Crawford 16:31
Yeah, okay, yeah. All right, all right. So you're listening to growth and grace. I am Leah Crawford. This is Julian Rosado, and we have David Ricketts here with us this morning, again, because September is National Preparedness Month, correct? So we want to ensure that we are prepared, as Nevadans, because we are in the desert. It is hot, it is hot and just little things that you can do in your home to be prepared, whether you own your home, whether you're renting, whether you're standing in a hotel room. Yes, so little things that you might need to do when you go to the room. So don't just charge your laptop up and leave, you know, charge it up when you while you're in the room. Unplug everything when you leave a hotel room. Just little things that you can do to be better prepared, so that you can do prevention. That's right, instead of, you know, trying to clean up if there is a

David Ricketts 17:26
fire. So let me touch on those really quick. So for national fire or National Preparedness Month, I'm also the cert coordinator for Clark County Fire Department. So this is a big month. A lot of people don't realize how many earthquakes we have here in Nevada. We have a lot of earthquakes here. Yes, they're very right here, yes, right here, right here, where we right now? Yes, yeah, we're on a fault line. I did know that we're on a fault. So how many do we have? At least 10 a day, a day. Yeah, a day. Yeah. Man, yeah. There's websites you can go to. You can see all the earthquakes that we have. They're very minor.

Leaha Crawford 17:56
They're minor because I remember one we had some years, some years ago, where it must have been. It was some years ago, maybe 2016 2017 where I was sitting in a building, and everything

David Ricketts 18:09
started swaying, yeah, everything. I

Leaha Crawford 18:11
was like, Oh, this is different. Oh, yeah, I would have moved. No, honestly, and it was, it was an earthquake. It was during the middle of the day, and I think part of the 15 was damaged.

David Ricketts 18:22
That's what I say. Think about what if you're on the freeway, yeah, or whether, if you're coming in or out of town, you're on the 15 and traffic stops for hours and hours. How much gas do you have in your car? You should never, ever have your car less than half a tank of gas. Say that again, never. This applies to me. See, I told you never have less than half a tank of gas in your car. Say it again, because you can get trapped in a car. Always have bottled water in your car as well. That's another thing, especially for women, especially if you wear high heels, makes you have good walking shoes. If you wear flats, have some walking shoes in there, because if your car breaks down or something, if you got to walk, or if the traffic jam is, let's say, 10 hours long, and for whatever reason you have to foot it, you're not going to go do that in heels, right? So it has some good

Leaha Crawford 19:10
and honestly, you don't be barefoot in the heat, because I tried that one day, right?

David Ricketts 19:14
Yeah, you want to also have some type of a first aid kit. So actually, this month, if you go to our website, LV fires.com, we're giving away emergency preparedness kits right now for this month. Wow. Yeah. LV, fires.com fires.com you just take a quick fire safety survey. We'll get you an emergency kit

Leaha Crawford 19:30
for free. Yeah? And that's important, because, as women, you know, you got everything else in the car, in the purse, yeah? Just add some more stuff, you know, but it's always good to keep water in the car.

David Ricketts 19:40
Yeah, it's Vegas. You can get the, you know, how quick you can get dehydrated. It was, was, I think it was local, or maybe on the 15 where that older gentleman, he passed away sitting in his car after a couple hours, stuck in a traffic jam. Yeah? So, medication, if you have medication, whether apartment anything, make sure you have it with you. You just never know. Yeah. Never know in your in your trunk, have some type of a preparedness bag. It might socks, underwear, t shirt you just never know you may not

Leaha Crawford 20:09
be able to get. Might be using it for other purposes. I'm telling you,

David Ricketts 20:17
that bag comes in handy.

Leaha Crawford 20:21
Oh, God. So basically, in your trunk, just have the things you may need, yeah, and it's, you know, you're just, you're just getting prepared. And if you're in the car for a long time, yeah, just, you know, to just be prepared.

David Ricketts 20:33
We're spoiled here very much. So we really are very much now, what was this? Over the past, what, year, almost, what, 14 months, we've had two lithium battery trucks turn over and have or just have spills, both on the 15 one, I believe the closest one was in Barstow. Understand this so touching on lithium ion batteries again, if that crash would have happened in town, in City Limits here, we would have had so many people sick, possibly die from respiratory issues. When those bat when those fumes hit, they're, once again, volatile. It's like blue, right? Yeah, it's very different colors, yeah, yeah, different colors and the smoke as well. Everything is different, way more toxic.

Julian Rosado 21:15
Yeah, from movies.

Leaha Crawford 21:18
You know what? That's good. You got something from the movie. But again, this is about information, not to be fearful, but just to wait, just to be aware and to know that while you are driving around town, you know, just the things that you need to have in your car, because you never know what may happen, and you don't want to be oh my god, I should have. Oh my god, I should have. But these are the things that you need to do. So let's go over the list again. Okay, of things in your in your home. So in my house, and I know, like most of us, we have those blocks plugged up because in the cords hanging so that we know we to charge the phone and the watches. Because we're charging phones, we're charging watches, we're charging laptops.

David Ricketts 22:02
One thing I'm seeing a lot more of today are hearing aids from seniors. Yes, a lot with senior communities. I'm seeing a lot of and I understand yet charge that at night. I understand that, but I've have read that some of those hearing aid companies do use lithium ion batteries. And I know hearing aids are not cheap. I mean, if you can't afford it, that's fine. Get two pair so you can charge one during the day. Use the other one. That's fine. But we charge so many things by our bedside today, more than ever before. If you do have multiple things that you are charging, especially in your bedroom, do not use a regular extension cord. Those white, green and brown ones, those are for temporary use. Only. Use a surge protector. Don't use those extension cords behind you, for your TV, for your computers, your desktops there for temporary use only.

Leaha Crawford 22:52
So while that's the long extension cord that back in the day, that long brown,

David Ricketts 22:56
yeah, the white, green, light, green, brown. Don't use those for everyday purposes. That's it. Though I see a lot. That's why, one of the reasons we have I'm

Leaha Crawford 23:04
traumatized by bottles, for a whole lot of reasons, because they stop using the switches in the 70s and start using those. So I'm trauma. I don't have one with you on that. Yeah, I'm traumatized by those. I don't even bring those in house. Not gonna bring those in the house. You need an extension. I don't know. We just can't do it. Not I'm not I'm not using that one bad memories, okay?

David Ricketts 23:27
So those are the during the holidays, we get a lot of Christmas tree fires, holiday light fires, because people are using extension cords, okay, but you want to use something has a round cable, okay? So like the orange, you

Leaha Crawford 23:38
know, the orange with the real Okay, the ones that contractors mostly exactly those

David Ricketts 23:42
are heavy duty you want to heavy duty cord for your Christmas lights, Thanksgiving lights, all that stuff.

Leaha Crawford 23:47
So got it. So just getting ready, just knowing that these are the things that you should do on a regular basis and that you should just get into better, just better habits, better habits, because we had to learn how to because I remember times when we didn't charge our phones up and phones dead during the day. I gotta figure out what to do. So now let's learn something

David Ricketts 24:05
different. Get a charger for your car. I have one of my car. As soon as I get in the car, like this morning when I was headed this way, my cell phones may be at 36% but in the car, by the time I get here, it's 57% as soon as I get back in the car, I'm plugging it back up.

Julian Rosado 24:19
Yeah, getting back to the houses. Like, I walk a lot of new bills, and they don't have ventilation outside. So I don't know how is that even passed, but, like, how was a new homeowner even posted remedy that?

David Ricketts 24:33
It's funny that you say that. So my daughter, my oldest daughter, she, you know, she doesn't live with us anymore. She's on her own. Her sister actually lived together, but she works for a security company that also does inspections residential and commercial for fire, and now she's saying that everything that I've been telling her for the past 20 years, oh about fire, Oh, Dad was right. Now she's seeing in the things that may be

Leaha Crawford 24:57
inspected always like that, though they'll never believe what you say. Know somebody else got to tell the children, my parents don't know what they talking about. So for

David Ricketts 25:04
instance, here's a great example. I was in this couple beautiful house. They had me go into the attic, and as soon as I got into the attic, I look on top of the furnace, I see rat droppings everywhere. Beautiful, pristine house. But then I look to the left, they've only been a house for been in the house for four months. I look to the left, there's two rat rat traps there, and right in between both rat traps, there's a dead pigeon there. How did a pigeon get into someone's attic? Wow, I didn't know. I couldn't smell it, nothing. There were actually two dead pigeons in there. And one of the traps did have a rat in it as well. But so we have rodents as well that will find ways to get into the house. Sometimes they can shoot through wires there. They can nest in there. You just have no idea what's going on. So I've seen people have rats in their house because of their neighbors. It's not necessarily you same thing with roaches, same thing. So you can have rodents to get into the house that may be doing things in the walls or in the attic, you just never know. They'll find a way in. They will find a way into the house.

Julian Rosado 26:08
Always do a background check on the inspector. Yeah, yeah.

David Ricketts 26:12
So when you buy a house, here's a big thing. Hopefully you're home when the inspector comes by, have the inspector go into the attic and look around. That is, I would say, the most neglected part of the house that most homeowners don't have the inspector check have that addict checked out. You just never know what's going on. Most people have never been in the attics here.

Julian Rosado 26:31
Yeah, never, yeah.

David Ricketts 26:33
You don't know what's going on. Have no idea. I've gone into attics where I've seen beer cans from construction workers or from whoever, electrician, whoever's working in there. I've seen crazy stuff. They know we're not getting using the ladder and going up in our attitude

Leaha Crawford 26:50
around you say that that's funny, because I had a girlfriend that do build having a problem with the tub. She new build. They put the tub in but when she started the first couple bath she's taken, the water started leaking and coming down in the living room, so they had to come back in and pull the tub out. When they pulled the tub out, it was bottles and everything underneath the tub.

Julian Rosado 27:12
Yeah, they're, they're rush that's a rush job. Yeah, yeah, you really can't blame them, because they're, they're contracted to do so many houses, so many property Yeah, and they have to keep the margins low, so, yeah, okay, I don't blame them.

Leaha Crawford 27:24
But okay, all right, whether we're

David Ricketts 27:26
talking about switches that they're putting in wiring, do you think they're going to use the most expensive wiring and switches when they're building houses, or, like you said, try to cut corners, save money, yeah, as long as it passes code, right?

Leaha Crawford 27:40
Okay, you okay again? Y'all, I have a headache. I have to go home again and look through this house and make sure that we are not causing a fire. Well, what about office spaces, though? Because in your office space, you leave your computer plugged

David Ricketts 27:52
up, right? Yes, me, personally, I am surprised we don't have more office fires than we currently do. I truly am. I've been in a lot of offices done safety classes for businesses. I'm so surprised we don't, because

Julian Rosado 28:05
the wire is not occupied

Leaha Crawford 28:06
that much. Well, no, because you have so much stuff plugged up, and it's not necessarily that you're leaving the office and you're unplugging everything. No, they're not. You are leaving it on all night. Computers are staying on. You're not properly turning them off, or you're not doing that too.

David Ricketts 28:21
I was at, uh, I won't say the law firm, but I was in a law firm. I went to the area where the paralegals are all these cubicles. They'll have fans, decorative lights, just so many things plugged into power strips. And I'm like, they don't, yeah, they don't want to plug this stuff. When they

Leaha Crawford 28:34
leave, they don't leave it on. Okay? So that brings us to the end of show. David, as always, you dropped a bunch of information, a bunch of knowledge. If you want to hear the show again, it is on it is streamed on several different platforms, but you are listening to growth and grace. I am Leah Crawford, this is Julian mazzano. I hope you learned a lot today, because I've learned a lot today. And of course, we're going to bring David back around the holidays, so we know how to be prepared, so we can have a safe holiday season until next week. Until next week. Peace and blessings. Bye.

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